History: CLWE Demo Screencast

Source of version: 9

The idea for this ((CLWE)) subproject is to put together a really good demo movie that showcases the current functionalities of CLWE in TikiWiki.

LPH, March 13: "A video to demonstrate the features would certainly be useful. A screencast would not only make a good demo for Mozilla and UN, but also be a great marketing tool for the website. 

The only feature we really need to demonstrate is the change tracking workflow. A lot of small elements will be visible from it, like the new change quantification, the links for translators and all those things. The multilingual tags and structures are not quite as mature and don't aim for a really wide audience."

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Rick Sapir has made (silent) Tiki screencasts: http://twbasics.keycontent.org/tiki-index.php?page=demo+movies


I have started an initial demo (attached to this page): {file name="translation.swf" page="CLWE Demo Screencast" desc="Working draft of demo screencast"} (no captions, yet)

This is based on the current 1.10 code in SVN.

Some questions:
#On Frame 24, the Translation button is hidden by the right column. Shouldn't the bottom button bar wrap?
* AD: You mean the frame where you use the Translate button to translate the English page for the first time, into Spanish? I don't know why the Translate button is invisible. Probably a problem with the Tiki Theme you are using. When we use the default Tiki theme, it seems to work fine. Could be a resolution thing too... let me test.

#On Frame 47, why does Tiki say:
+__Updating 'Bienvenido' based on ''__
+Shouldn't it say __...based on 'Welcome'__ instead?
#On Frame 135, after assigning the German page to the translation group, why is it listed twice in the Page Translation module?
** The content is in fact not synchronized at all. The other translations do not yet contain the content of the German page and the German page does not contain the content of the other pages. This is fully expected. A simple "Complete translation" both ways will do the trick. However, this is not really a standard path, so it probably should not be part of the screen cast. Instead, modifications should be made to various pages after the initial translation to show how the translation links work.
*** I must be misunderstanding... The pages ''are'' identical.   I would expect, when adding a page to a translation group, some sort of option/selection to indicate if the page is a complete or partial translation. You're saying that I still need to open both pages (DE and EN) and and select __Complete__? That seems like an extra 2 steps. %%% %%% I disagree that his is not the standard path -- my translators for ''Smarties'' typically:
####View the source of an EN page.
####Copy the source to their local PC.
####Use some local editor to create the translation (Tiki's editor is simply too cumbersome for "special" characters and UTF encoding issues).
####Create a new wiki page for their translation
####Paste the text from their local PC to the wiki page.
####Assign the page to the existing translation set.
***** Maybe there is something else we should do then, because they really should use the translate link to do it properly. From there they can move to an external interface if they want to. The initial content contains the text to be translated and it should not have any encoding problems. The other alternative would be to allow to say the translations are complete when attaching the page, but I really don't see this as a natural workflow.
*** Additionally, I don't understand why the DE page is listed twice in the Page Translation module: it is under both "Better" and "Need improvement." How can this be?
**** This is because the system does not force the pages to be in sync to add content. You could very well add a paragraph to the English page while someone else adds an other paragraph on the French page. The English page needs improvement because of the content on the French page, and the French page needs improvement because of the content on the English page. With the situation above, the content is simply disjoint.

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Thu 10 of Apr, 2008 12:12 GMT marclaporte	30
Thu 10 of Apr, 2008 12:11 GMT marclaporte newer demo	29
Wed 09 of Apr, 2008 11:31 GMT ricks99	28
Wed 09 of Apr, 2008 11:30 GMT ricks99 updated/simplified demo from seb	27
Fri 04 of Apr, 2008 13:52 GMT Seb	26
Fri 04 of Apr, 2008 10:56 GMT ricks99 fixed some more typos :(	25
Fri 04 of Apr, 2008 10:56 GMT ricks99	24
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 18:04 GMT marclaporte clarified	23
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 17:47 GMT marclaporte	22
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 17:32 GMT marclaporte directly in page	21
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 16:02 GMT Seb	20
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 15:55 GMT Seb Seb's notes	19
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 14:02 GMT ricks99 added demo source	18
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 13:59 GMT ricks99 fixed typo in demo	17
Thu 03 of Apr, 2008 10:40 GMT ricks99 updated demo	16
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 16:39 GMT ricks99	15
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 15:24 GMT anonymous	14
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 15:09 GMT lphuberdeau Re-add my comments	13
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 15:01 GMT alain_desilets	12
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 14:52 GMT marclaporte bug about video	11
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 14:42 GMT alain_desilets	10
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 14:40 GMT lphuberdeau	9
Tue 01 of Apr, 2008 14:26 GMT alain_desilets	8
Mon 31 of Mar, 2008 13:10 GMT ricks99	7
Mon 31 of Mar, 2008 12:46 GMT lphuberdeau	6
Sat 29 of Mar, 2008 18:15 GMT ricks99 initial screencast	5
Thu 27 of Mar, 2008 20:55 GMT Seb	4
Thu 20 of Mar, 2008 15:38 GMT Seb	3
Wed 19 of Mar, 2008 20:20 GMT Seb	2
Wed 19 of Mar, 2008 20:06 GMT Seb	1